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With that, Casablancas reaches over to the tape recorder and turns it off. I look at him. He looks at me. Then I turn it back on and try to start again with something easier. O nce again, he reaches across the table and places his dirty fingernail over the STOP button. And then he just stays in his seat, swaying and staring. I suggest stopping the interview and just having a normal conversation, but with the tape deck on.
He declines. And everything I have to say is not going to be in this one Rolling Stone interview. The issue, he explains, is that he believes in a higher power, some call it God.
And right now, that higher power is telling him that it is not the right time for him to say anything. And I look forward to the future, blah, blah, blah, blah. A few minutes later, Casablancas picks up his beer, downs three quarters of the bottle in one gulp, slams it to the table, stands up and walks to the video game, Golden Tee. He turns around and addresses the bar.
No one responds. Four minutes later, he returns to the table. Then he sits in my lap, kisses me seven times on the neck, and makes three lunges for my lips, connecting once. Before I can wipe dry, he is out the door, rolling himself home in a discarded wheelchair he finds abandoned outside. T he next night, I meet Casablancas at the Gramercy Diner. He has promised to behave himself this time. His eyes are glazed over from lack of sleep. Casablancas: No. I mean, I think they know that if it gets too out of hand, I usually stop myself.
I would be too hung over to sit down and play music. Whenever I was hung over, everything just seemed so negative. Casablancas: The first time was probably when I was ten and there was a dinner party. What the hell is this? This is great. After a cigarette break, Casablancas orders abeer and a grilled Jack-and-cheddar-cheese with bacon, and we talk for nearly three hours.
Casablancas is a different person from who he was the night before and is willing to talk about anything. The only taboo subject is his father. John Casablancas was the founder of Elite Models. Julian remembers a joke his father once told him about a group of bulls: One bull said that he could have sex ten times a day, another said he could do it twenty times, and a third bragged that he could do it fifty times. My cell phone rings.
It is Hammond. The two are planning to watch the movie Fletch tonight. Once upon a time, most of the Strokes lived together. But, one by one, they have moved apart or disappeared into girlfriend land. Casablancas is the only single member left. Outside it is pouring rain. Casablancas leaves and walks into the downpour without an umbrella. Within two steps, he is soaked. After he disappears, I survey the detritus of the night on the table.
There is a half-eaten sandwich, several empty beer glasses, an empty cigarette pack and a crumpled piece of paper. The date is today. Nice neighborhoods get huge funding and. Even as a kid I could see that, and it was part of the reason I dropped out. Which is fairly rare, no? This might be just anecdotal. I grew up thinking people in the suburbs had more money because they got, like, a car when they were sixteen, and the houses were so big. I think that people who grow up in bubbles have to undo the weird biology of fearing the neighboring tribe or whatever.
Samuels, had taught Howard Zinn. But it was more in , , that I really started to understand. My dream was that image of bands that play Irving Plaza. Built to Spill and Guided by Voices. That was the goal. But then the mix of Bush No. It was the kind of horrific awakening you have when you grow up in an American lullaby—that simplified version. Chris Hedges does a lot of good writing. Bernie was the first. The Democratic primaries—I think that was a clear moment when democracy got neutered.
People look at the main election as the proof of democracy, but really it happens way before that. And with the kind of closed-door candidate selections and the shady ring-kissing going on. Like, Wake up, everyone! For very bad people. Sorry, this is probably boring. My point is, Bernie was the first non-corporate person in a big position and so we tried. But, honestly, Maya is a way cooler candidate. I had been a fan of hers. I was trying to talk to her about political stuff because I thought she was so awesome.
I knew her as a civil-rights lawyer and advocate, and I knew she had worked at City Hall. I thought she was amazing—a well-spoken, compassionate, honest, brave person of character. I think she cares about the actual problems of New York. As a New York native, and, as a person who is so often associated with New York, what do you think the city needs? Six and eleven. I think that, first, free contraception and easy access to contraception helps.
So that could be a big job-and-training need. You have a lot of kids that fall through the cracks. And I think the police. But you also need transparency, because the allocation of funds is often futzed with. Having said all that, for me the No. And then those issues would suffer more. Like, do you want to support the old-school, cool New York?
This is the cool person to vote for. Is that something you think about when you perform, write music, go about life? Seeing yourself from the outside and knowing what people expect of you?
And does it influence the way you operate, or is it something you keep out of your mind as much as possible? But when you achieve success at such a young age, how do you not get caught up in that? Or do you feel like you did, at some point, and then you moved back from it? The first years of success are a little hazy because of alcohol. I like to still hang out in bars, weirdly. I copy and paste the ten most cruel comments, and I read them out loud as I cry into the mirror and put on clown makeup.
I like working on music, I like working on political stuff, I like writing and reading, I like playing shows. The first time I went on tour, I thought it was amazing—like, Oh, my God, this is a paid vacation. I got too burnt out, psychologically. So I want to work at home.
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